Bill Wilson and Wayne Weiseman pour their hearts into their permaculture design courses, changing lives as well as landscapes. In a unique format, students do initial course work online and then attend a one week hands-on course. In this chat along with Sivananda Yoga Farm sponsor Vidya Chaitanya, Wayne discusses principles starting with with observing elements like wind, water, sun and topography in a specific property. Bill provides alarming information on "peak soil." Together they note that permaculture's goal is to create small, intensive ecologies, a foodweb where everything is exchanging with everything else. Eat and Be Eaten, and Share the Bounty.